First, I don't know why it is happening now. My guess is that this same thing has been happening for many years, as any "seller" of sports memorabilia can tell you.
THEY knew what they were doing was against the rules and did it anyway. I don't know anything about Pryor's home life or family, but my guess is that some sports agent somewhere sees a future for old Tyrelle and is taking care of his family, just in the hopes of representing him some day. If his family is so destitute he should drop out of school and take care of them, a good son would do that, so I don't sympathize in any way with his family "situation," my guess is she has a new car, new clothes and is pretty well off.
The Athletic Director at Ohio State should be fired for NOT DOING HIS JOB. He is too busy spending all that money he makes.
If Tress was any kind of a man or coach, he would suspend them from this bowl game. It happened this season, not next season. If he doesn't, he is a spineless wimp and is only concerned about the outrageous salary he makes. If he was really any kind of a man he would defend his athletes and what they did to the NCAA.
My guess is he is taking some of those pills that Woody used to take to calm his nerves, his program is in disarray and he knows it, this isn't good for recruiting and salvaging his million a year plus job. He makes more than old Gordon Gee, University President, something just is wrong with that.
Remember, the early part of the season this year, all that Heisman talk associated with Pryor, then they played Wisconsin......................
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Friday, December 24, 2010
Bowl Month? TV RULES
Below are some comments off the internet. I personally am appalled that they are allowed to participate in the bowl game. I think it shows that TV RULES, and the game would be a bust without these players. MONEY before principle. It is Tressel's program, HE is responsible. I think it says a lot for a school and their athletic program when the football coach makes more money than the president of the university........................ jbd
You thought this was Bowl Month?
Guess again.
It's We Didn't Know Month.
From Cam Newton to the memorabilia peddlers in Ohio, that's the operative phrase allowing them to continue playing in what has been a deeply tainted 2010 college football season.
QB Terrelle Pryor won't be running the Ohio State attack in the first five games of 2011.
We didn't know.
Newton, the Auburn quarterback and Heisman Trophy winner, said he didn't know that his father attempted to sell Cam's services to Mississippi State for $180,000. That plausible (or implausible, if you prefer) deniability has kept Newton on the field as the Tigers have marched into the Tostitos BCS National Championship Game.
Thursday at Ohio State, we learned that five players -- many of them stars -- didn't know it was a no-no to sell championship rings, game gear and personal awards for cash. Why didn't they know? According to the NCAA release, the players "did not receive adequate rules education" from the school at the time of the transgressions, which occurred in 2009. That plausible (or implausible, if you prefer) deniability will allow all five to play in the Buckeyes' Allstate Sugar Bowl showdown with Arkansas on Jan. 4.
So there you have it, future NCAA rules breakers of America (and your parents). Go for the gold. When you get caught, shrug and say, "Why, I had no idea." Blame it on your dad and/or a negligent compliance staff at your university.
The NCAA dropped the hammer on the Buckeyes -- quarterback Terrelle Pryor, running back Daniel "Boom" Herron, receiver DeVier Posey, offensive tackle Mike Adams and defensive lineman Solomon Thomas -- for 2011. They're all suspended for the first five games next year.
But the hammer only hurts if there's someone there to feel it hit. We'll see how many of the five salesmen are still Buckeyes by next season. I'll set the over/under at 1.
Ohio State reaction
What does the suspension of five Ohio State players for the first five games of next season mean? Plenty, both now and later, as ESPN.com's Adam Rittenberg details.
Most of these guys will hightail it to the NFL -- but not until after getting to play in a high-profile BCS bowl.
If that strikes you as nonsensical, well, get in line. That line currently stretches from Fayetteville, Ark., to Saigon. And back.
The NCAA has done it again, producing a ruling that defies common sense and provokes suspicions about ulterior motives. Even as the organization has taken admirable steps in terms of aggressive enforcement and attempted transparency, it still has a unique ability to leave the public baffled and skeptical.
The Newton ruling was widely ridiculed for the loophole that allowed the quarterback to play in the SEC and BCS title games -- two of the most important games of the year in terms of revenues and ratings. In the open-and-shut Ohio State case, the NCAA is delaying punishment long enough for the Buckeyes to play in another game that packs a huge revenues-and-ratings payload.
The We Didn't Know defense was cited by the NCAA as one mitigating factor in this decision. Another was the fact that postseason play provides a "unique opportunity" and is "evaluated differently" when it comes to suspensions, according to an NCAA Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement policy that was enacted in 2004.
Well, sure. It's a unique opportunity to get a new jersey that could be worth a lot of money on the memorabilia market. If Georgia wide receiver A.J. Green can get a grand (and a four-game NCAA suspension) for selling his Independence Bowl jersey, imagine what Pryor can get for one from a big-time bowl such as the Sugar Bowl?
Commerce aside, deferring punishment until after the biggest game of the season doesn't seem like the greatest deterrent to future rule breaking. Especially in this instance, when the rule breakers have the option to go pro instead of ever paying the piper.
The Herd with Colin Cowherd
ESPN college football analyst Kirk Herbstreit says the suspension of five Ohio State players for the start of next season is "addition by subtraction" and Ohio State can get back to focusing on being a team.
Seems to me that if these guys were busted for breaking the rules, the punishment should be rendered in a timely fashion. Like now. No matter how inconvenient it might be, or how "unique" an "opportunity" it is to play in a bowl.
That's another thing that makes this ruling something of a joke. Rhapsodizing about the "unique opportunity" of playing in a bowl game would seem to be completely lost on the Buckeyes in question.
If they had a full appreciation of what it means to play for Ohio State, and to play in a bowl, and to be part of a tradition much larger than themselves, they wouldn't have sold what they sold. The championship rings would mean too much. So would the gold pants, which are small jewelry awards given to every Buckeye for beating Michigan.
I've seen Ohio State players wearing their gold pants proudly on necklaces. I've heard them talk about what those trinkets mean.
To Pryor and Thomas, they meant one thing: cash on the flash.
I understand that some, most or maybe all of the players involved come from economically challenged families. And poverty will make people do things they would refrain from under better circumstances. And it can be much harder as a young adult to appreciate the emotional value of rings and trinkets than it is at an older age.
But a full scholarship and all the perks that come with being a football star at Ohio State are no small advantages on a college campus. I'm fairly certain there are others in Columbus making do with far less.
The bottom line is this: These players slapped Ohio State tradition in the face, for a profit.
I'd imagine a large segment of the Buckeyes fan base is insulted by their actions. Some of them probably would rather not see them play against Arkansas. Jim Tressel has the opportunity to display the guts and integrity the NCAA didn't show by sitting the players on his own.
But he was given an out -- a handy, trendy out.
They didn't know.
It's the phrase of the month in this scandal-scarred season.
You thought this was Bowl Month?
Guess again.
It's We Didn't Know Month.
From Cam Newton to the memorabilia peddlers in Ohio, that's the operative phrase allowing them to continue playing in what has been a deeply tainted 2010 college football season.
QB Terrelle Pryor won't be running the Ohio State attack in the first five games of 2011.
We didn't know.
Newton, the Auburn quarterback and Heisman Trophy winner, said he didn't know that his father attempted to sell Cam's services to Mississippi State for $180,000. That plausible (or implausible, if you prefer) deniability has kept Newton on the field as the Tigers have marched into the Tostitos BCS National Championship Game.
Thursday at Ohio State, we learned that five players -- many of them stars -- didn't know it was a no-no to sell championship rings, game gear and personal awards for cash. Why didn't they know? According to the NCAA release, the players "did not receive adequate rules education" from the school at the time of the transgressions, which occurred in 2009. That plausible (or implausible, if you prefer) deniability will allow all five to play in the Buckeyes' Allstate Sugar Bowl showdown with Arkansas on Jan. 4.
So there you have it, future NCAA rules breakers of America (and your parents). Go for the gold. When you get caught, shrug and say, "Why, I had no idea." Blame it on your dad and/or a negligent compliance staff at your university.
The NCAA dropped the hammer on the Buckeyes -- quarterback Terrelle Pryor, running back Daniel "Boom" Herron, receiver DeVier Posey, offensive tackle Mike Adams and defensive lineman Solomon Thomas -- for 2011. They're all suspended for the first five games next year.
But the hammer only hurts if there's someone there to feel it hit. We'll see how many of the five salesmen are still Buckeyes by next season. I'll set the over/under at 1.
Ohio State reaction
What does the suspension of five Ohio State players for the first five games of next season mean? Plenty, both now and later, as ESPN.com's Adam Rittenberg details.
Most of these guys will hightail it to the NFL -- but not until after getting to play in a high-profile BCS bowl.
If that strikes you as nonsensical, well, get in line. That line currently stretches from Fayetteville, Ark., to Saigon. And back.
The NCAA has done it again, producing a ruling that defies common sense and provokes suspicions about ulterior motives. Even as the organization has taken admirable steps in terms of aggressive enforcement and attempted transparency, it still has a unique ability to leave the public baffled and skeptical.
The Newton ruling was widely ridiculed for the loophole that allowed the quarterback to play in the SEC and BCS title games -- two of the most important games of the year in terms of revenues and ratings. In the open-and-shut Ohio State case, the NCAA is delaying punishment long enough for the Buckeyes to play in another game that packs a huge revenues-and-ratings payload.
The We Didn't Know defense was cited by the NCAA as one mitigating factor in this decision. Another was the fact that postseason play provides a "unique opportunity" and is "evaluated differently" when it comes to suspensions, according to an NCAA Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement policy that was enacted in 2004.
Well, sure. It's a unique opportunity to get a new jersey that could be worth a lot of money on the memorabilia market. If Georgia wide receiver A.J. Green can get a grand (and a four-game NCAA suspension) for selling his Independence Bowl jersey, imagine what Pryor can get for one from a big-time bowl such as the Sugar Bowl?
Commerce aside, deferring punishment until after the biggest game of the season doesn't seem like the greatest deterrent to future rule breaking. Especially in this instance, when the rule breakers have the option to go pro instead of ever paying the piper.
The Herd with Colin Cowherd
ESPN college football analyst Kirk Herbstreit says the suspension of five Ohio State players for the start of next season is "addition by subtraction" and Ohio State can get back to focusing on being a team.
Seems to me that if these guys were busted for breaking the rules, the punishment should be rendered in a timely fashion. Like now. No matter how inconvenient it might be, or how "unique" an "opportunity" it is to play in a bowl.
That's another thing that makes this ruling something of a joke. Rhapsodizing about the "unique opportunity" of playing in a bowl game would seem to be completely lost on the Buckeyes in question.
If they had a full appreciation of what it means to play for Ohio State, and to play in a bowl, and to be part of a tradition much larger than themselves, they wouldn't have sold what they sold. The championship rings would mean too much. So would the gold pants, which are small jewelry awards given to every Buckeye for beating Michigan.
I've seen Ohio State players wearing their gold pants proudly on necklaces. I've heard them talk about what those trinkets mean.
To Pryor and Thomas, they meant one thing: cash on the flash.
I understand that some, most or maybe all of the players involved come from economically challenged families. And poverty will make people do things they would refrain from under better circumstances. And it can be much harder as a young adult to appreciate the emotional value of rings and trinkets than it is at an older age.
But a full scholarship and all the perks that come with being a football star at Ohio State are no small advantages on a college campus. I'm fairly certain there are others in Columbus making do with far less.
The bottom line is this: These players slapped Ohio State tradition in the face, for a profit.
I'd imagine a large segment of the Buckeyes fan base is insulted by their actions. Some of them probably would rather not see them play against Arkansas. Jim Tressel has the opportunity to display the guts and integrity the NCAA didn't show by sitting the players on his own.
But he was given an out -- a handy, trendy out.
They didn't know.
It's the phrase of the month in this scandal-scarred season.
Thursday, December 9, 2010
How modest can one guy be?
Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor says he would "dominate" college football if he played in a spread offense.
Pryor made the comments to the Chicago Tribune when asked about the attention given to players like Auburn's Cam Newton and Michigan's Denard Robinson.
"I'd dominate the nation (in a spread offense)," Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor says. "I'll put it like this: You put me in any of their offenses — any of them — and I'd dominate," the junior told the newspaper. "I'd dominate the nation. What those guys do, that's what they're supposed to do in their offense.
"They carry the ball 30 times a game. I carry the ball maybe five times. There are times I didn't even run the ball in a game. You put me in any of their offenses, where I can run the ball and have a choice to throw, I would dominate college football."
Pryor, who entered Ohio State amid much hype in 2008, was not named to the first or second team of either of the All-Big Ten teams (one selected by coaches, one by the media). But he is a finalist for the Tribune Silver Football, awarded annually to the Big Ten's best player.
"We could have done better, but I'm 30-4," Pryor said of his time with Ohio State. "I want nothing else but to win. If I was having a lot of stats and I was losing, I would really be kind of mad. My competitive nature wants just to win, by any means. By any means, win. That's all I really care about, to tell you the truth, man."
Then, WHY did he choose Ohio State, he must not be too bright, arrogant, but not too bright. Why not choose a school where the spread offense is used. I'd say some "sour grapes" are contained in that statement, he has been "overlooked" in a lot of categories, what movie was that in, "I cudda been a contender." How about, "They made me come here, I wanted to go to a school with the old "spread offense," but they promised me so much, I just hadda come here."
Must make old coach Tress and his little sweater vest wonder if he will be back next year. My guess is he was promised a Heisman if he came to OSU, Archie probably told him that. He likes to blow his own horn, maybe go into politics, transfer to another school, or turn pro. "I cudda been a contender."
Early part of the season a lot of talk about his being in the running for the Heisman, have heard none since the loss to Wisconsin, must have really been ego deflating for him, and he apparently has a larger ego than I thought.
Pryor made the comments to the Chicago Tribune when asked about the attention given to players like Auburn's Cam Newton and Michigan's Denard Robinson.
"I'd dominate the nation (in a spread offense)," Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor says. "I'll put it like this: You put me in any of their offenses — any of them — and I'd dominate," the junior told the newspaper. "I'd dominate the nation. What those guys do, that's what they're supposed to do in their offense.
"They carry the ball 30 times a game. I carry the ball maybe five times. There are times I didn't even run the ball in a game. You put me in any of their offenses, where I can run the ball and have a choice to throw, I would dominate college football."
Pryor, who entered Ohio State amid much hype in 2008, was not named to the first or second team of either of the All-Big Ten teams (one selected by coaches, one by the media). But he is a finalist for the Tribune Silver Football, awarded annually to the Big Ten's best player.
"We could have done better, but I'm 30-4," Pryor said of his time with Ohio State. "I want nothing else but to win. If I was having a lot of stats and I was losing, I would really be kind of mad. My competitive nature wants just to win, by any means. By any means, win. That's all I really care about, to tell you the truth, man."
Then, WHY did he choose Ohio State, he must not be too bright, arrogant, but not too bright. Why not choose a school where the spread offense is used. I'd say some "sour grapes" are contained in that statement, he has been "overlooked" in a lot of categories, what movie was that in, "I cudda been a contender." How about, "They made me come here, I wanted to go to a school with the old "spread offense," but they promised me so much, I just hadda come here."
Must make old coach Tress and his little sweater vest wonder if he will be back next year. My guess is he was promised a Heisman if he came to OSU, Archie probably told him that. He likes to blow his own horn, maybe go into politics, transfer to another school, or turn pro. "I cudda been a contender."
Early part of the season a lot of talk about his being in the running for the Heisman, have heard none since the loss to Wisconsin, must have really been ego deflating for him, and he apparently has a larger ego than I thought.
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